What the hell are Trip Flip Rates ?????

Here is our Local Chairman, Brian Bresnick of UTU 1252, to hash over some items about Trip Flip Rates

TRIP FLIP RATES

In the past few days the company has began to pay Bakersfield Trip Rates in two separate categories:
Trip Rate and Flip Trip Rate. To help alleviate concerns and hopefully answer your questions, I will
attempt to explain it. I realize that my explanation won’t satisfy everyone, and there may be some unhappy individuals. If you don’t understand, or have questions, please call and ask me, and I will explain as best as I can. Or you can call the General Chairman, at 1-714-836-9181 for his explanation. The issue is not completely resolved and the General Chairman and I are still working on it. The company however, will continue to pay Flip Trip Rates. In the mean time the union is conferring to decide if the issue should be taken to the Dispute Committee.

           What is a Flip Trip Rate? To explain this, I thought it would help to provide some history and background.

Pre 1985.

          Before 1985, there was no clear language in any National Agreement the stipulated the combining of a Deadhead and a Service trip. If the carrier did so, the Union took exception to it, and submitted penalty claims.

1985 National Agreement

           When the 1985 National Agreement was negotiated and subsequently sent to the Presidential Emergency Board, one of the items that were passed was Article VI Deadheading. This article did two things; created parity in deadhead rates between pre 1985 and post 1985 employees, and established the right for the carrier to combine a deadhead and service trip. Section 1(a) states:

 “Deadheading and service may be combined in any manner that traffic conditions require, and when so may be combined employees shall be paid actual miles or hours on a continuous time basis, with not less than a minimum day, for the combined service and deadheading. However, when deadheading from the away-from-home terminal to the home terminal is combined with a service trip from such home terminal to the away-from-home terminal and the distance between the two terminals exceeds the applicable mileage for a basic day, the rate of pay for the basic day mileage portions of the service trip and deadhead shall be paid at the full basic daily rate.”

The first part of that paragraph simply states that when you deadhead form Fresno to Bakersfield and return to Fresno on a train, without having a break in service, the trip can be combined and paid on a continuous basis, not to be less then the miles ran, which is 216 miles.

 

           As far as I can tell from talking with may individuals this practice has not been done on a regular basis. The standard practice was to deadhead, tie up at the away-from-home terminal, work a train back to home terminal, and tie up, being paid two basic day trips at 130 miles basic day. I have also checked with the past General Chairman Jack Holden, and past General Secretary, Dave Bessom, to ensure that there were no local agreements that pertained to this. They are aware of none, but said that as part of the 1985 agreement the company had the right to implement the combined service. So the question remains, why didn’t they. Unfortunately I don’t know.

           The second paragraph of Section 1(a) which starts, “However, when deadheading from the away-from-home terminal”, is confusing to both the General Chairman and myself as to exactly what it means. To compound that Section 1(b) of Article VI reads:

 “Employees deadheading into their home terminal can have their deadheading combined with service out of that home terminal only when the deadhead and service comes within the provisions of short turnaround service rules”.

           I interpret this to read that deadheading combined service can only be done from the home terminal to the away-from-home terminal, not both directions. I have asked the General Chairman to have that part of Article VI, Section 1(a) and 1(b) interpreted by the International, and determines what it means.

2001

           When negations began on the 2002 National Agreement, the issue of deadhead-combined service was talked about between the Company and the Union, and how it would be paid under the proposed trip rate. On other railroads, such as Union Pacific, Northern and CSX, trip rates were already in effect, and a term had been coined to cover deadheading in combined service; Flip Trip Rate.

 

 

           The agreement was ratified by the membership and the birth of Trip Rates was here. I have looked in the 2002 Agreement and cannot find mention of Flip Trip Rates, and how they will be applied in any portion of Part B – Through Freight Service. These are the articles that pertain Trip Rates. However, in the Question and Answer portion of the agreements having to pertain to Trip Rates, I find the following:

 

         

           Simply stated, if you are called to deadhead in combined service, you will be paid on rate, (Flip Trip Rate) for the entire time you are on duty.

 

           This is when I met with the General Chairman, Butch Young, and the Director of Labor Relations, Roger Boldra, to discuss the Trip Rates figures for the 1st District Pool Service. The company chose the year 1991 as a basis for obtaining data about or pool runs. It was explained how the various pay elements were incorporated into the trip rate, and what other elements we could choose to add, if we so chose to. The subject of Flip Trip Rates came up and I asked what it was. It was explained to me, as I have explained it in this narrative. I informed Roger Boldra that we didn’t deadhead in combined service on the 1st District, that instead we were paid separately for each trip. Roger showed me the data he had, and it did in fact show that during the year 1991, one person was paid for deadheading in combined service, and therefore the company thought we did it all the time. At that time Roger excepted my position that since there is only one instance if deadheading in combined service, it was out of the ordinary, and not a true reflection of how the 1st Division operates. At that time it was no longer discussed.

          When I returned form my meeting, I compiled data to show the membership how Trip Rates worked, and how they compared to the old pay scale. Nowhere in any of the documents I put out did I mention Flip Trip Rates, because I thought it was a dead issue.

 

           Before the implementation of Trip Rates on the 1st Division I was part of a conference call that included the General Chairman, Crew Management, and Timekeeping. In that call we discussed the Trip Rates once more to ensure that all parties were on the same page. Timekeeping at that time brought up the issue of Flip Trip Rates, and I informed them of the discussion that I had with Roger Boldra. The General Chairman also said the same thing, and again the issue was dropped.

           That me month a System General Notice came out discussing Trip Rates and when they will begin. Once again Flip Trip Rates were discussed, and I assured everyone that we didn’t have those, because I was under the impression, and assurance form the Director of labor Relations that we wouldn’t have Flip Trip Rates.

 

           During this time crews who, under the guise of the 1985 National Agreement, were actually deadheading in combined service, were paid to separate and equal Trip Rates. Things were good.

 

           All hell breaks loose. The company decides to enforce Article VI, Section 1(a) of the 1985 National Agreement, and started paying those individuals who were deadheading in combine service, and calling it Flip Trip Rates. Not only that but timekeeping considered necessary to have 4 hours off, even if you were at the hotel, to be paid two separate Trip Rates.

           April 2004

           During this month and still continuing, I have had two conference calls with labor Relations concerning Flip Trip Rates and why they were implemented 9 months after we began Trip Rates. The answer I was given by labor Relations was that under the 1985 National Agreement they had the right to deadhead crews in combined service, which is what they are doing. Personally, I think that someone saw how much was being paid each start when a crew deadheads, which is higher now then last year, due to the post 85 employees being paid a full deadhead.

           The monetary figure for a Flip Trip Rate is $283.77, which is basically 216 miles (actual miles of a round trip), plus the elements that were rolled into the Trip Rates (yard runaround, Initial and Final Terminal Delay, etc.). As you can see, this is roughly a pay difference of $70.00 when you are paid two separate Trip Rates. I explained this to Labor Relations, each time a little more forcefully, and as a jester of good will on the side of Labor Relations, they increased the amount to $304.22. Bless their hearts.

           Needless to say, I discussed this with the General Chairman, that the company was going to keep paying Flip Trip Rates regardless what we say, since they have the right to deadhead us in combined service. The General Chairman and I agreed to the amount of $304.22 to be paid for a Flip Trip Rate. I realize this is still approximately $50.00 less then what you were getting paid, but until we can resolve this issue, it’s better than what was being paid.

 

           So where does that leave us. If you are called to deadhead to Bakersfield and work back on a train, without going to the hotel, then you are considered as working in combined service and will be paid a Flip Trip Rate. Noticed I underlined the part pertaining to going to the hotel. The company considers combined service being busted if you go to the hotel. I understand that someone in timekeeping was using 4 hours as a minimum time to be in the hotel, but Labor Relations says otherwise.  

          Having this situation blow up, I researched the issue as much as possible and found some interesting and helpful information. The first comes from the 1985 National Agreement, Question and Answers document, which is separate from the actual 1985 agreement. It states:

 

 

           So, if you are called to deadhead from Calwa to Bakersfield the crew office must inform you that you will be working in combined service. If, when you get to Bakersfield you are instructed not to go to the hotel, but instead to take a train back, then you were mishandled. Therefore I want you to put a special claim in using code 73 and write it as follows:

 Claim 130 miles account crew office failed to notify me that I was to work in combined service. I was called for deadhead on symbol _____ and upon arrival at Bakersfield was notified that I was to work train _______ back to Calwa without a break in service.

           When you deadhead to Bakersfield it is the responsibility of the Train Master to notify you that you are to work back. This is where we all need to come together and think with are head not wallet. Quit asking the Train Master if they have a train to work on. Instead, tie up, explain the remarks section, “not notified of train to work back on, tied up and went to hotel”.

           I expect that once we do this, the company will catch on and institute something to stop it. Having realized this, I have asked the General Chairman to attempt and have some time limitation put in place that a crew can sit in the terminal waiting for a train.

           The second thing I found has to do with Initial Terminal Delay. When deadheading in combined service, Initial Terminal Delay doesn’t end until you take charge of the train at the point you deadheaded to. This is addressed in the Question and Answer Agreement of 1985 and states:

 

 

           This was taken to a First Division Board and the Neutral ruled in favor of the Union. Subsequent Board awards have also ruled for the Union and have used the First Division Award as precedent. This means that the company is going to have to check which trips in 1991 were, under the definition of deadheading in combined service, were just that. Then they will have to compute how much Initial Terminal Delay was earned, and add that into the Flip Trip Rate. How much it is, I don’t know, but I believe it will be substantial. As to whether the carrier will agree to re-compute the figures, again I don’t know. If they don’t I will request from the General Chairman that the issue be sent to the Dispute Committee for consideration.

           I realize that my explanation will not satisfy most of you, and that is understood. If you have any questions please ask me. As things change I will post it on the bulletin board in the yard.

 

Thanks, Brian